A weird one, perhaps. I’m writing an article regarding how males who transition to female (so taking T suppressors and estrogen) lose muscular strength. I’m trying to get a handle on expected losses etc. I’ve come across a story and something doesn’t feel right about the reported stats. I wondered if you might share your thoughts.
Male - 6’3’’, 100kg, natural athlete representing country in a contact sport in a ‘power’ position. Deadlifts 210kg x 5.
November 2015, age 26 - begins transition. Hormone treatment only, no surgery, nor any intent to have any.
October 2017 - assessed for suitability for inclusion in a female sports team. Strength recorded as ‘off the charts’ (I figure this to be at least 160kg deadlifts?). Refused entry, with physical disparity and subsequent danger to female opponents cited.
February 2017 - accepted into female sports league. Height and weight the same as pre-transition. Social media claims that she can now only deadlift 80kg x 5.
80kg x 5 is novice level for a female of that build, let alone for someone who was at a male level of T for 26 years, and let alone for someone who just four months earlier was ‘off the charts’. All the scientific data I’ve read measures around a 25% loss in muscular strength in post-transition males far further along the process than this athlete (longer hormone regime and surgery).
She’s reporting 60%+ loss in strength overall, and 50% loss in the last four months. Given her very strong incentive to underreport her strength, am I way off to smell a rat here?
Like I say, this is a bonkers topic. It’s probably entirely inappropriate in this thread but you people have always seemed pretty knowledgeable and I’m just trying to get a feel for this. I have no intention of reporting any thoughts gathered.
Male - 6’3’’, 100kg, natural athlete representing country in a contact sport in a ‘power’ position. Deadlifts 210kg x 5.
November 2015, age 26 - begins transition. Hormone treatment only, no surgery, nor any intent to have any.
October 2017 - assessed for suitability for inclusion in a female sports team. Strength recorded as ‘off the charts’ (I figure this to be at least 160kg deadlifts?). Refused entry, with physical disparity and subsequent danger to female opponents cited.
February 2017 - accepted into female sports league. Height and weight the same as pre-transition. Social media claims that she can now only deadlift 80kg x 5.
80kg x 5 is novice level for a female of that build, let alone for someone who was at a male level of T for 26 years, and let alone for someone who just four months earlier was ‘off the charts’. All the scientific data I’ve read measures around a 25% loss in muscular strength in post-transition males far further along the process than this athlete (longer hormone regime and surgery).
She’s reporting 60%+ loss in strength overall, and 50% loss in the last four months. Given her very strong incentive to underreport her strength, am I way off to smell a rat here?
Like I say, this is a bonkers topic. It’s probably entirely inappropriate in this thread but you people have always seemed pretty knowledgeable and I’m just trying to get a feel for this. I have no intention of reporting any thoughts gathered.
by doctoremma via Bodybuilding.com Forums - Female Bodybuilding
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